I want to live till I'm 3,000 years old
我想活到 3,000 岁
I want to be on another planet when I
我想死后去另一个星球
die I do you think that's realistic I
我你认为这现实吗 我
could spend anywhere between 20 to
$50,000 a year on biohacking here I have
每年可以在生物黑客上花费 20 到 50,000 美元 我还有
some more supplements how many you know
更多补充品 你知道多少
40 to 60 pills we have signed up for
40 到 60 粒药丸，我们已经签署了
cryonics when you die when you freeze
人体冷冻法 当你死了 当你冷冻
yourself yeah the government want you
自己时 是的，政府希望你
sick so that you can be controllable
生病，这样你就可以控制，
this is anti- organ rejection drug and
这是抗器官排斥药物，
it's what like minus 100us 120 today how
就像今天负 100us 120
will I know if my Skin's burning um
我怎么知道我的皮肤是否 燃烧，嗯，
you're going to feel extreme pain all
你会感到极度痛苦，
right I am pooing my
好吧，我正在大便我的
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pantaloons in this episode of Life
在这一集《生活》中我的裤子
uncovered I'm meeting biohacker Leon
被发现了我会见生物黑客莱昂
biohackers take a DIY approach to
生物黑客采用DIY方法
hacking their own biology in an attempt
入侵自己的生物体以试图
to live forever Leon's days are spent
生存 永远 Leon 的日子都是
fasting for 22 hours taking huge amounts
在 22 小时禁食中度过的，服用大量
of supplements working out and taking
补充剂锻炼身体并
off label prescription pills so I'm
取消标签处方药，所以我
currently in Canary Warf and I'm just
现在在 Canary Warf，我
about to meet Leon
即将见到 Leon
biohacking totally interests me I can't
生物黑客让我非常感兴趣，我不能
lie it requires a lot of dedication um
撒谎它需要 很多奉献精神，嗯，
and it feels like it could just be a big
感觉这可能只是
waste of time I mean if it's true who
浪费时间，我的意思是，如果这是真的，谁
doesn't want to be young forever so I
不想永远年轻，所以我
can totally see the appeal of it my big
完全可以看到它的吸引力，我的大
question is like is it just all a scam
问题是，这只是全部吗 一个骗局
hello how you doing I'm yeah good nice
你好你好吗我是的很好很高兴
to meet you nice to meet you as well
见到你也很高兴见到你也
thanks for letting me come yeah of
谢谢你让我来是的当然
course show me what it takes to Sure
告诉我需要什么才能确定
bioh hat let me uh let me just make you
生物帽子让我呃让我给你做
a Bulletproof Coffee I've heard a lot
一杯防弹咖啡我 我听说过很多
about bulletproof coffees but I always
关于防弹咖啡的事，但我一直
just thought you know what butter and a
以为你知道黄油和
coffee yeah know this is my spin on it
咖啡是什么，是的，这是我的想法，
this is the green tea powder some
这是绿茶粉，一些
turmeric three different types of
姜黄，三种不同类型的
mushrooms yep so why why do this I want
蘑菇，是的，所以为什么我要这样做
to live forever it's not 180 I want to
永远活下去，不是180岁，我想
live till I'm 3,000 years old I want to
活到3000岁，我想
be on another planet when I die do you
死后去另一个星球，你
think that's realistic definitely you
认为这现实吗？你
think you can realistically live forever
认为你真的可以永远活下去，
the speed of innovation is exponential
at this point every year we're we can't
每年这个时候，创新的速度都是指数级的 我们
even keep up anymore what's it taste
甚至无法跟上它的味道是什么是
like yeah I mean you I I'm getting the
的我是说你我我
mushrooms for sure yeah yeah very
肯定会得到蘑菇是的是的非常
mushroom I don't think I fully know your
蘑菇我不认为我完全知道你的
real age compar 36 you're 36 okay so
真实年龄比较36你36好吗 所以
we're not we're not that different in
我们不是，我们的年龄没有那么不同，
age this is my bedroom that's a lot of
这是我的卧室，里面有很多
oils yeah so these are this for your
油，是的，所以这些是给你的
face this is no these are to to ingest
脸用的，这不是这些，是为了吸收
how much of an investment is it to have
拥有
this level of stuff maybe around 1,000
这种水平的油需要多少投资
every 45 to 60 days which is isn't Small
每 45 到 60 天大约 1,000 个东西，这不是小
Change it's not some people buy a Gucci
变化，不是有人买 Gucci
bag I'd like to just keep my health
包，我只想保持健康
sleep is by far in a way the best thing
睡眠，从某种程度上来说，这是
that you can do for your health long
您可以为自己的健康做的最好的事情 从
term do you have like a specific
长远来看，您是否喜欢在
position just for pillow between the
两腿之间放一个枕头
legs to kind of align the spine mean
以对齐脊柱的特定位置，这意味着这
that's quite comfortable I mean what are
很舒服，我的意思是，
the kind of health benefits of this it's
这对健康有什么好处，这是
strictly postural I'll typically just
严格的姿势，我通常
come out here
会来这里，
my wife and daughter are usually still
我的妻子和 女儿通常还在
sleeping I will do whm Hof breathing I
睡觉，我会做霍夫呼吸，我
will show you an example of how I do the
会给你看一个我如何呼吸的例子，
breathing I'll start first and then you
我会先开始，然后你
can just kind of jump
就可以跳
in I will tell you it's it is um extreme
进去，我会告诉你，这是非常强大
ex powerful you can get high from doing
的，你可以
that from all the oxygen this is where I
这样做从所有的氧气中得到兴奋，这是我
make my morning coffee so how often are
早上喝咖啡的地方，所以
you fasting then every day except for
你每天禁食的频率是多少，除了
the except for Saturday Sunday usually
周六周日，通常
uh 20 22 hours you know I'll go the
呃20 22小时你知道我会
entire day I'll come home eat at 10:
整天去我会 晚上10点回家吃饭
p.m. after the gyms and is that one meal
健身房之后，就是一顿饭，
uh I mean you call it one eating window
呃，我的意思是，你称之为一次进食窗口，
are you hungry no not at all it uh you
你饿吗？一点也不饿，呃，你已经
you get over it all of the supplements
克服了，
down here basically what I use for you
这里的所有补充剂基本上都是我在锻炼时为你使用的东西，你
know when I work out stuff you have your
知道吗？ 有你的
protein your MCT oil powdered peanut
蛋白质 你的中链甘油三酯 (MCT) 油 花生
butter some MinGa powder one of the big
酱粉 一些 MinGa 粉 这不是一个大
questions isn't it I guess is like is it
问题吗？我想这
all just a money-making scheme I
只是一个赚钱计划，我
definitely think that some of it is a
绝对认为其中一些是一个
money-making scheme you know people that
赚钱计划，你认识的人
know what they're doing like me can
像我一样知道他们在做什么的人
usually avoid you can filter the traps
通常可以避免你可以过滤掉
of that taking the pills is simple you
服用药丸的陷阱很简单，你
take them out and you down them and it's
把它们拿出来，你把它们吞下去，这就是
what how many uh between 40 to 60 um and
多少呃在40到60微米之间，
that does it smells like a pharmacy yeah
它闻起来像 药房是的，
it smells bad I'll just I'll put a few
它闻起来很难闻，我会再放一些
more in there grass-fed beef organs it's
进去，草饲牛器官，它
really great I love it isn't the an
真的很棒，我喜欢，这不是一个
argument that your body can only take x
争论，你的身体只能吸收x
amount of vitamins and it'll just
量的维生素，它只会
basically excrete the rest of it yeah
基本上排泄其余部分是的，
exactly but uh I'm I'm fine with that
但是呃，我同意这种情况
happening if part of it is wasted fine
发生，如果其中一部分被浪费了，
you know there is an argument for some
你知道，对于其中一些维生素存在争议，
of these these vitamins that like in
比如
large amounts they do have quite
大量服用，它们确实具有相当
profound effects do you struggle to
深远的影响 你是否很难
handle the fact that you might die one
应对有一天你可能会死去的事实？我
day I I would just say that I love my
只想说，我非常爱我的
wife and daughter a lot and I just want
妻子和女儿，我只想
to spend as much time with them as
花尽可能多的时间与她们在一起，
possible we we have signed up for cionic
我们也已经报名参加了人体
as well so cryonics is when you freeze
冷冻学项目。 当
yourself when you die you're going so
你死的时候你会冷冻自己，所以
basically suck the blood out of you put
基本上会吸出你的血液，
some nitrogen in you freeze you freeze
在你体内注入一些氮气，你会冷冻
you it's 120,000 for your full body you
你，你的全身需要120,000，你
use life insurance okay to fund it so we
可以使用人寿保险来资助它，所以我们
take out a million dollars uh on each me
拿出一百万美元 呃，对我
and my wife is it not is it not a bit
和我的妻子来说，
weird that this random private company
这家随机的私人公司
is going to get a million dollars from
将从
the death of you and your wife with at a
你和你妻子的死亡中获得一百万美元，其
technology that hasn't been proven to
技术尚未被证明
work if you do it you have 50% chance of
有效，这不是有点奇怪吗？ 做你有 50% 的机会
it's succeeding right if you don't do it
成功 如果你不做
you have a zero% chance so you're dead
你就有 0% 的机会 所以你就死了
is it relaxing living like this I think
这样的生活很轻松 我经常
about death a lot I think about all of
思考死亡 我思考所有
these things and it is it can be a bit
这些事情 这可能有点
exhausting where's the kind of need to
累人，哪里需要
biohack and to live forever conf from my
我父母的生物黑客和永远活着好吧，
parents okay yeah my dad uh died at 86
是的，我爸爸 86 岁去世
and my mom at 70 my mom from cancer and
，我妈妈 70 岁，我妈妈死于癌症，
uh you know they they didn't trust
你知道他们不相信
doctors you know my mom I felt that her
医生 你知道我妈妈，我觉得她的
doctors just didn't do enough to throw
医生做得不够，把
the kitchen sink at it just made me real
厨房的水槽扔到了那里，这让我
bitter in general towards the medical
对医疗
establishment so
机构感到非常痛苦，所以
yeah as part of Leon's busy biohacking
是的，作为莱昂繁忙的生物黑客
routine he takes multiple prescription
程序的一部分，他每天服用多种处方
pills every day but he doesn't actually
药，但是 他实际上并不
have the conditions the pills are made
具备服用这些药片的条件
for are these prescription prescription
这些处方药
is that legal it is it is it is
是合法的 是的 是的 完全是的 是的 完全是
completely yeah it's completely so how
这样
are you getting them online pharmacies
你如何在网上药店
legitimate pharmacies in the United
美国合法药房购买
States are you worried about the
你担心
prescription drug element of it just in
处方吗 它的药物成分
case no this maybe you take something
以防万一，这也许你服用了一些
you shouldn't and there's a ton of
你不应该服用的东西，那里有很多
websites out there I do the research
网站我做了研究，
this is a diabetes drug obviously I
这是一种糖尿病药物，显然我
don't have diabetes they've proven
没有糖尿病，他们已经证明
taking this basically reduces all cause
服用这基本上可以减少所有 导致
mortality this is just typical
死亡 这只是典型的
over-the-counter uh allergy medicine
非处方呃过敏药，
with Loratadine in it Loratadine is one
里面含有氯雷他定 氯雷他定是
of the ingredients that can block a
可以阻止
particular cancer Pathway to dofil it's
特定癌症的成分之一 途径是
for your sex uh sex drive but the the
为了你的性呃性欲，但
the real benefit of this is again that
真正的好处又是 它可以
it lowers your blood pressure this is a
降低你的血压 这是一个
little bit more controversial this is an
更有争议的东西 这是一种
anti- organ rejection drug there is an
抗器官排斥药物 有一种
anti-aging off Lael use for this so I
抗衰老药物 Lael 用于此所以我
take six tablets of this on Sunday
在周日晚上服用六片
evenings it's some pretty pretty
它是一些非常非常
hardcore stuff isn't it yeah an anti-
硬核的东西不是” 是的，是的，抗
organ rejection diabetes are you sure
器官排斥糖尿病，你确定
that like the amalgamation of all of
所有
them together isn't having kind of yeah
这些都合并在一起不会有
there's problematic I'm open with my GP
问题吗？是的，有问题，我向我的全科医生公开
about it I tell her and she advises me
此事，我告诉她，她建议我
why aren't the drug companies themselves
为什么不这样做 制药公司自己
saying look you can you know reduce your
说，你看，你可以
chance of cancer by taking this or why
通过服用这个来减少你患癌症的机会，或者为什么
is Big farmer not saying we can make
大农场主不说我们可以
millions for this because they can't
为此赚到数百万美元，因为
make billions if you can make millions
如果你能赚到数百万美元，他们就赚不到数十亿美元，
you want to make billions they want to
你想赚到他们想要的数十亿美元
make trillions big Pharma is not here to
制造数万亿美元的大型制药公司并不是来
help
帮助
you so I've just stepped outside of
你的，所以我刚刚走出
Leon's house for a second and it is a
莱昂的房子一秒钟，
bit wild that he's just popping random
他只是随机服用
prescription pills that cannot be good
处方药，这
for you um and obviously the big
对你没有好处，这有点疯狂，嗯，显然最大的
question is like is it worth it is he
问题是
now younger as a consequence of doing
因为做了这些事情，他现在更年轻了，这值得吗，这就是
these things that's what I want to know
我想知道的，
and yeah I'm going to go back inside now
是的，我要回到里面，现在和
go to the gym with him can you lead me
他一起去健身房，你能引导我
through a crash course workout yeah I'll
进行速成课程锻炼吗，是的，我
take a 20 there we
我们就花 20 分钟
go and what time you usually hit in the
看看您通常在
gym around 8 800 p.m. so it's the last
晚上 8 800 点左右去健身房的时间。 所以这是
thing you do just before you eat exactly
你在吃饭之前做的最后一件事，
exactly in the future my house is going
在未来我的房子将
to be completely biohacked out I'm going
被完全生物黑客入侵我将
to have
有
the gym the pool the steam room and SAA
健身房、游泳池、蒸汽房和SAA
I'll have a hyperbaric oxygen tank I
我将有一个高压氧罐我
have a cryotherapy tank so how much do
有 一个冷冻治疗箱所以
you think You' need to set aside to have
你认为你需要留出多少钱才能拥有
a fully biohacked house probably a few
一个完全生物黑客的房子可能需要几
million I'll have a reverse osmosis
百万我会在
water system on my uh on my water tank
我的呃我的水箱上安装一个反渗透水系统，
so that I'm not bathing in in water that
这样我就不会在里面洗澡
has fluoride and chemicals in it
含有氟化物和化学物质的水
government's trying to kill you with but
政府试图用它杀死你，但
are you saying that they are consciously
你是说他们是有意识地试图
trying to kill people or they're trying
杀人，还是他们试图
to make people sick if people aren't
让人们生病，如果人们没有
sick you don't make money so the
生病，你就赚不到钱，所以
government is absolutely not happy about
政府 对
people being healthy they want you sick
人们健康绝对不高兴，他们希望你生病，
so that you can be controllable who is
这样你就可以控制，是
it who's calling these shots the cabal
谁在发号施令，阴谋集团，密西根，
the michis the Rockefellers the
洛克菲勒，罗斯
Rothchilds what has like a coordinated
柴尔德，什么有
eff 100% and how would that never make
100%的协调效率，这怎么可能永远无法
it out to the outside world it is in the
实现 外面的世界是在
outside world but you got to realize
外面的世界，但你必须意识到
there's a class of people out there that
外面有一类人
want to be controlled cuz the idea that
想要被控制，因为他们认为
there's like a cabal running the world m
有一个阴谋集团在统治世界，他们
that's trying to kill us with fluoride
试图用氟化物杀死我们，
now water is very qon on that's like a
现在水很匮乏 这就像
kind of q q kind of I think most
一种q q，我认为大多数
biohackers are
生物黑客
just they they think it's important to
只是他们，他们认为
be able to control their own
能够控制自己的
outcomes rather than to bury their heads
结果而不是把头埋
in the
在
sand so I've just come out of his place
沙子里很重要，所以我刚刚从他的位置出来，
and and it feels like the kind of
并且它 感觉
biohacking world is a place that has
生物黑客世界是一个有
quite a lot of people who are quite
很多人非常
distrusting of mainstream medicine so
不信任主流医学的地方，所以
tomorrow I'm going to see another
明天我将看到
element of his world he's getting some
他世界的另一个元素，他正在接受某种
kind of facial then we're going to a
面部护理，然后我们将去
cryogenic lab um to be frozen I've never
低温实验室，嗯，要冷冻，我
done that before I'm a little bit you
以前从未这样做过，我有点
know worried about
担心，你知道
it how you do how you doing man good to
你怎么做，你怎么做，伙计，很高兴
see looking beautiful oh yeah thank you
看到看起来很漂亮哦，是的，谢谢，
yeah know I just just came from a hydro
是的，知道我刚刚做了水力
facial you look you're glowing
面部护理 你看起来你容光焕发，
absolutely glowing so what what's
绝对容光焕发，所以
happening today so I know we've got a
今天发生了什么，所以我知道我们有一
whole day of treatments us yeah so we're
整天的治疗，是的，所以我们
going to go to uh my favorite biohacking
要去呃我最喜欢的生物黑客
Clinic it's called human so there's
诊所，它被称为人类，所以
actually something called a biohacking
实际上有一种叫做生物黑客的东西
clinic that's like a thing yeah yeah
诊所就像一件事是的，
that's what that's what we call it I'm
这就是我们所说的，我很
intrigued I'm excited excited nervous
好奇，我很兴奋，很紧张，我们
should we all right head off let's head
应该出发吧，我们走吧，我们
off let's
go hey great Le good to see you how are
走吧，嘿，太棒了，很高兴见到你，
you pleasure to meet you Ben nice to
你很高兴见到你，本 很高兴
meet you call you doct e please that
见到你，请叫你医生，这
sounds like something from a Sci-Fi
听起来像科幻小说中的东西，
doesn't it well I think we are it does
不是吗？我想我们确实
feel like we're in a Sci-Fi yet is this
感觉我们身处科幻小说中，但这是一个
a place so if I wanted to live forever
地方，所以如果我想生活 永远，
would this be a place I come to is that
这将是我来到的地方，
like a realistic ambition living
就像一个现实的野心，活得更
stronger for longer is one of our manes
坚强，活得更久，是我们的鬃毛之一，
should we uh check out some of the other
我们应该呃检查其他一些
therapist sure why the hell not shall we
治疗师，确定为什么我们不应该
do ozone therapy yeah go for it so
做臭氧疗法是的，去做吧，所以
what's going on here then ozone is three
什么是 这里发生的臭氧是三个
particles of oxygen o03 ozone therapy is
氧气粒子 o03 臭氧疗法是
delivery of ozone mixing it with his
输送臭氧与他的
blood and putting that back into his
血液混合并将其放回他的
system increases the levels of
系统中增加
antioxidants so is this now going back
抗氧化剂的水平所以现在这会回到
into his blood yeah correct yeah yeah
他的血液中是的，正确的，是的，什么是什么
what what of the more unexpected
elements of it for me is the kind of use
对我来说，更意想不到的因素是
of the part the kind of prescription
该部分的使用方式，
drugs for off label purposes what do you
用于标签外目的的处方药类型，您
think of that I don't use the
认为我自己不使用这种
medication
药物，
myself uh for my patients would you
嗯，为我的患者，您会
recommend it to a client um we're not
推荐给客户吗？ 嗯，我们
currently I guess there is a worry that
目前还没有，我想有人担心，
maybe having a lot of that drug over a
也许长期服用大量这种药物
long period of time could have uning
可能会产生不良
consequences yeah I mean consequences
后果，是的，我的意思是，
will come if they're going to come and
如果后果会发生，那么后果就会发生，如果
they won't if they're not so only time
它们发生，它们就不会发生 不是只有时间
will tell this is our cryotherapy Suite
才能告诉我们这是我们的冷冻治疗套件，
we're going to get you started in a in a
我们将在一秒钟内让您开始使用，这比
second is there an advantage over this
to just have a nice bath absolutely yes
洗个澡有什么优势，绝对是的，
because your head goes in as well so um
因为您的头也会进去，所以嗯，
and you go to a lower temperature and
你去到一个较低的温度，
it's what like
就像
minus- 120 today stay in for how long
零下120，今天呆了多长时间，
like 3 minutes 3 minutes okay why 3
比如3分钟3分钟好吧，为什么3
minutes three the door is not locked
分钟3门没有锁，
because after that you will get burn
因为之后你会被烧伤
your your skin will burn yeah from the
你的皮肤会被寒冷烧伤是的
cold from the cold okay how will I know
由于寒冷，好吧，我怎么知道
if my skin is
我的皮肤是否在
burning um you're going to feel extreme
燃烧，嗯，你会感到极度
pain all
疼痛，
right so we've got some kit for you here
好吧，所以我们在这里为你准备了一些工具包，
so gloves socks thermal socks under your
手套，袜子，膝盖下的保暖袜，
knees air boots I'm a little bit I'm a
气靴，我有点 我有点
little bit worried no you're fine all
担心，不，你没事
right let's let's fire it up I am pooing
吧，让我们把它点燃吧，我正在拉屎
my
我的
pantaloons this is going to be
裤子，这会很
terrifying it's like a portal to another
可怕，就像通往另一个
horrible Universe isn't it should we
可怕宇宙的门户，不是我们应该
start yeah right we'll start from there
开始吗？是的，我们会 从那里开始
you see the clock there yeah
你看到那里的时钟是的
okay nice deep breaths you're going to
好吧深呼吸你会
see him disappear nice control
看到他消失很好的控制
breathing oh my God he just disappeared
呼吸哦我的上帝他刚刚消失
he looks like he's absolutely freezing
他看起来他完全冻结了
he nice control breathing is good
他很好的控制呼吸很好是
yeah well done brother any words of
的干得好兄弟有什么
advice get outside your mind oh God oh
建议吗 摆脱你的思想哦上帝哦
God okay you ready
上帝好吧你准备好了我们
let's go no but I'll do it you're up
走不但是我会做的你起来了
brother good
兄弟
luck nice deep breathing you got
祝你好运深呼吸你明白了
this okay Ben you're entering the last
本你正在进入最后
60 seconds you really well nice control
60秒你真的很好控制
breathing control your biology
呼吸控制 你的生理结构
lift yourk
把你的身体举起
down that is pretty chilly that is
来，太冷了，
chilly I can't Li you feeling good all
太冷了，我不能，你感觉很好，
good you do smashed it
很好，你确实把它砸碎了，
okay
nice oh God man 110° first time when it
很好，天啊，110°，第一次，感觉很好，是的，
was good I feel good yeah you feel good
你感觉很好，
I feel alive for sure I can't lie it's a
我感觉还活着 当然我不能撒谎，这是一次
pretty meditative
非常冥想的
experience there you go I'm now going to
体验，我现在将
live forever that's it despite a long
永远活着，就是这样，尽管
day at the clinic I was still skeptical
在诊所度过了漫长的一天，我仍然怀疑
about whether this was really making any
这是否真的会产生任何
difference it felt like it could all
影响，感觉这一切都可以
just be a bit of a waste of time and
有点浪费时间和
money so I had an idea I sent Leon
金钱，所以我有一个想法，我给莱昂做了
what's called an epigenetic blood test
所谓的表观遗传血液测试，
the results would be able to tell us the
结果将能够告诉我们
difference between his real
他的真实
chronological age and and his biological
年龄和他的生物
age meaning how old his cells are I've
年龄之间的差异，这意味着他的细胞年龄 我
never done one before we're going to see
之前从未做过这样的测试，我们要看看
how old I actually am I took the test as
我实际年龄有多大，我也参加了测试，
well so that we could compare the
以便我们可以比较
results I'm trying to figure out how to
结果，我试图找出如何
hold it biohacker vers non-
持有它生物黑客与非
biohacker a couple of months later it
生物黑客的几个 几个月后，又到了
was time to meet again but I noticed he
见面的时候了，但我注意到他
looked a little bit different good to
看起来有点不一样了，很高兴
see you you're significantly Browner
见到你，你比
than when I last saw you yeah I uh been
我上次见到你时的肤色明显更黑是的，我一直在
using a peptide and it up regates the
使用一种肽，它可以调节
melanin in your skin for for men it like
你皮肤中的黑色素，持续很长时间。 男人喜欢的东西
just really increases I guess the
真的会增加我猜
verality of your sexual function I don't
你性功能的真实性我不
know what you call it but like by
知道你怎么称呼它但喜欢
exactly exactly so that's like one of
完全一样所以这就像其中一种
the uses and then the tanning is the
用途，然后晒黑是
other one so you kind of get both
另一种用途，所以你可以将两者
together and it's just so you're taking
结合在一起 这只是为了让你个人服用
it to both increase your sexual appetite
它来增加你的性欲
personally I was just curious I had
我只是好奇我
never taken it before and I wanted to
以前从未服用过它，我想
see what it does I actually I don't like
看看它有什么作用我实际上我不喜欢
it you know so much because it was too
它你知道这么多因为它太
powerful you're you're having like these
强大，你是你，你
really uncomfortable moments on the
在火车上经历了这些非常不舒服的时刻，用石头
train stoning erection it's just
砸碎勃起，这太
ridiculous you know so I'm probably
荒谬了，你知道，所以我可能
going to be laying off of it for for a
会暂时停止使用它，
while I I'm not even doing it anymore
我什至不再这样做了，
cuz I'm too dark already great I'm I'm
因为我 我太黑了已经很棒了我
excited today for this yeah me
今天对此很兴奋是的我
too Dr E how you doing Dr E pleasure to
也是E博士你怎么样E博士很高兴
see you so you you are a pro biohacker I
见到你所以你你是一个专业的生物
am not necessarily A biohacker we're
黑客我不一定是我们
going to see whose biological age is
要看到的生物黑客 生理年龄更
younger do you actively yeah think about
年轻，你积极吗，是的，
this stuff well I spend a lot of time in
好好想想这个问题，我花了很多时间在
the bathroom sticking myself with
浴室里，用针扎自己的
needles in a stomach basically what do
胃，基本上，
you think of that the things that we're
你认为我们
injecting into us we need to be very
注射到我们体内的东西需要非常
very careful about there could be side
非常小心可能会有
effects and that's a risk that you're
副作用，这是一种你有
kind of consciously taking you know I
意识地承担的风险，你知道我
genuinely as a doctor who came into this
真的作为一名医生来到这个
space to make things better it concerns
领域是为了让事情变得更好，这让
me is it worth it cuz ultimately you're
我担心这是否值得，因为最终你正在
doing it cuz you want a long life aren't
这样做 因为你想要长寿不是吗
you so what if what if the consequence
所以如果结果
is the exact opposite I mean at the end
完全相反怎么办我的意思是在
of the day like I could walk out of here
一天结束的时候我可以走出这里被
and get hit by a bus or I could just not
公共汽车撞到或者我
do anything and live as long as I would
什么也做不了 活得和我想的一样长，
or I I would say that there's a lot of
或者我会说，有很多
people that don't do any research I do
人不做任何研究，我
as much as possible all right I'll let
尽可能多地做，好吧，我让
you guys choose for
你们
yourself okay you go first okay there we
自己选择，好吧，你们先走，好吧，我们
go moment two
开始第二步
trat
trat
wow I can't even find the page to I'm 20
哇，我什至找不到我 20 岁的页面，
no
不
wait I'm also
等等，我也
20 what the so technically that means
20 岁了，从技术上讲，这意味着
that I won because I'm older than you my
我赢了，因为我比你大，我的
biological age is 12 years younger yours
生物学年龄比你小 12 岁，你的比你小
is 16 years younger wow amazing what oh
16 岁 哇，太神奇了，哦，
perfect but Ben is impressive you put up
完美，但本令人印象深刻，你打了一场漂亮的
a good fight know right fair enough I'll
战斗，知道得公平，我会认为它令人印象
take it impressive because he's not a
深刻，因为他不是
biohacker so that means his genetics are
生物黑客，所以这意味着他的基因
really good is the effort worth four
真的很好，
years of biological aging maybe for Leon
也许对莱昂来说，四年的生物衰老的努力值得
if he didn't do this these all these
如果他不做这些所有这些
things where would he that's the
事情，他会在哪里这是一个要
question to ask right it's hard to know
问的问题，很难确定，
um for sure what did you make of Dr E's
嗯，你对 E 博士的
kind of final I suppose subtle warning
最终结果有何看法，我想这是微妙的警告，
of don't take too many things kind have
不要接受太多事情 有
a negative I agree I agree and and I'm
一个负面的我同意我同意而且我
very careful I'm not mixing my own
非常小心我不会
testosterone on my stove at home I'm I'm
在家里的炉子上混合我自己的睾酮我我
as safe as you can be as a pedestrian in
作为一个行人在
the space basically so okay so I might
这个空间里是一样安全的基本上所以好吧所以我 可能
have sadly lost the biological boxing
会遗憾地输掉生物拳击
match but I take victory in the fact
比赛，但我取得了胜利，因为
that you know I don't spend hours doing
你知道我不会花几个小时来做
this I haven't spent thousands of pounds
这件事，我没有花费数千英镑，
and I think in reality this journey
而且我认为实际上这段旅程并
hasn't made me want to do what Leon does
没有让我想做什么 莱昂确实
he's taking a lot of risks and I
冒了很多风险，我
understand why he's doing it he wants to
理解他为什么这样做，他想
live for a long time he wants to be
活很长时间，他想陪伴
there for his family and I think he's a
家人，我认为他是个
nice guy I understand why Leon wants to
好人，我理解为什么莱昂
live longer in truth so do I but a lot
实际上想活得更久，所以也这么做 我但
of what he's doing is unregulated and
他所做的很多事情都是不受监管且
risky and with so much of his life
有风险的，他的大部分生命都
consumed by prolonging the future is he
花在延长未来上，他
really living right
now
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